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How do Chinese [AI](http://171.244.15.68:3000) bots stack up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test
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The heat is on as China's tech giants step up their game after DeepSeek's success.
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Alibaba's Qwen2.5-Max chatbot, Chinese startup DeepSeek and OpenAI's ChatGPT. (Photos: [wiki.dulovic.tech](https://wiki.dulovic.tech/index.php/User:ClaritaCardwell) Reuters/Dado Ruvic, AFP/Sebastien Bozon)
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Bong Xin Ying
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WHAT'S BEHIND CHINA'S [AI](http://106.52.134.22:3000) BOOM?
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Transforming the nation into a tech superpower has actually long been President Xi [Jinping's goal](https://git.iws.uni-stuttgart.de) and China has its sights on ending up being the world leader in [AI](https://git.touhou.dev) by 2030.
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China views [AI](https://git.mae.wtf) as being "tactically important" and its venture into the field has actually been "years in the making", said Chen Qiheng, an affiliated researcher at the Asia Society [Policy Institute's](http://damoa8949.com) Center for China Analysis.
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Private and public financial investments in Chinese [AI](https://b52cum.com) [accelerated](https://www.hrdemployment.com) after ChatGPT took off in 2022 and showed promises of real-world service applications, Chen informed CNA.
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But it was DeepSeek's increase that really "urged" the concept that smaller sized players like start-up firms might have roles to play in [AI](https://se.mathematik.uni-marburg.de) research and developments, he includes.
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'A lot is up in the air': Is Chinese company DeepSeek's [AI](https://japapmessenger.com) model as impactful as it claims?
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Commentary: DeepSeek - how a Chinese [AI](https://thecodelab.online) company simply altered the rules of tech-geopolitics
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The "emphasis on cost advantage" is a distinct function of Chinese [AI](https://www.themart.co.kr), Chen states, with lower training and reasoning costs - the expenses of using a trained model to reason from new information.
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2025 might also see the introduction of more Chinese [AI](http://missima.co.kr) designs dealing with sophisticated thinking jobs.
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"We could see some [AI](http://47.92.149.153:3000) companies focusing on getting closer to artificial basic intelligence (AGI) while others concentrate on concrete ways to commercialise their designs and integrate them with clinical research study," Chen included.
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AGI describes a system with intelligence on par with human capabilities.
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Chinese [AI](https://www.tkc-games.com) [business](https://career.ltu.bg) are moving quickly, analysts say, building on DeepSeek's momentum to come up with their own ingenious and cost-efficient methods to apply generative [AI](http://150.158.93.145:3000) to jobs and develop advanced products beyond [chatbots](https://gogocambo.com).
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But on the other hand, access to high-end hardware, especially Nvidia's innovative [AI](https://1millionjobsmw.com) chips, remains a key difficulty for Chinese designers, noted Dr Marina Zhang, an associate professor at University of Technology Sydney's (UTS) Australia-China Relations Institute.
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"US export controls (still) restrict the ability of Chinese tech business ... forcing numerous to depend on older or lower-performance alternatives which can slow training and decrease model capabilities," she said.
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"While some companies like DeepSeek, have actually discovered imaginative ways to optimize or utilize more fundamental hardware effectively, obtaining advanced chips still makes a huge difference for training huge [AI](https://coverzen.co.zw) models."
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[DeepSeek-Nvidia](https://www.pakalljobz.com) chips: Singapore says it expects companies to comply with its laws
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So how do Chinese [AI](https://mobidesign.us) bots match up against ChatGPT? We put them to the test.
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WHICH BEST ADDRESSES CURRENT EVENTS IN CHINA?
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In China, subjects considered sensitive by the state are censored on the internet so it need to come as no surprise that Chinese-made chatbots will not acknowledge territorial disputes or tell you what occurred in Tiananmen Square in 1989.
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Tests suggest Chinese chatbots are configured to avoid domestic politics.
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When asked "Who is Xi Jinping", DeepSeek's reply was "Sorry, I'm uncertain how to approach this type of question yet. Let's chat about mathematics, coding, and logic problems instead!"
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To further test for accuracy and self-censorship, we asked DeepSeek-R1, Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT the very same concern: "What happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024?"
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The automobile attack outside a sports stadium in the southern Chinese city was at first heavily censored on Chinese social media - with authorities only revealing the death toll a day later.
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DeepSeek failed to [mention](https://m1bar.com) that an attack had occurred, highlighting rather a military air show and other events that had actually [occurred](https://www.informedica.llc) in the city like songs' day shopping sales in addition to sports and cultural activities.
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Dr Zhang believes that it may be a mix of factors at play, such as censorship along with "a few practical constraints".
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"DeepSeek depends on a mix of older graphics processing units and has actually limited access to cutting-edge hardware which can affect how rapidly and thoroughly the model can be trained or updated," she said, indicating existing US export curbs on China.
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"Its strong focus on Chinese-language information may also restrict its flexibility (to perform) multilingual jobs ... As a fairly new product, DeepSeek also hasn't yet been evaluated as broadly or on the same scale as more established [AI](https://www.mk-yun.cn) designs which positions extra obstacles throughout real-world implementation."
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When it pertained to Qwen2.5, Alibaba's chatbot surprisingly answered our concern about the Zhuhai cars and truck attack.
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That sought several duplicated efforts - 4 triggers to be precise - in a period of around 20 minutes.
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It ultimately communicated details about the attack which killed 35 individuals and left dozens of others hurt, also going on to note details like the date and time, details about the assailant including his name and age, in addition to casualties.
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However, it wrote that "the cops are performing a comprehensive examination into the intentions and circumstances surrounding the event", details which is now dated.
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The motorist, Fan, was executed last month.
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This is Qwen2.5's action completely:
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Answer: On Nov 11, 2024, a major and terrible event happened in Zhuhai, China. According to multiple news sources, a male named Fan Weiqiu (樊某, male, 62 years old) drove a cars and truck into a crowd at the Zhuhai Sports Center, resulting in a considerable number of casualties. Here are the key details:
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Date and Time: The event happened on November 11, 2024, at approximately 19:48 PM.
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Location: Zhuhai Sports Center, in the Xiangzhou District of Zhuhai.
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Casualties: The attack led to 35 deaths and 43 injuries.
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Perpetrator: The motorist, recognized as Fan Weiqiu (male, 62 years old), was apprehended by the cops.
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Response: The cops responded rapidly to the scene, and emergency situation services worked to carry the injured to healthcare facilities for treatment.
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Investigation: The police are carrying out an extensive examination into the intentions and circumstances surrounding the event.
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This event was commonly reported in the media and caused significant public issue. The federal government and local authorities have been working to provide assistance to the victims and their households, and to make sure a detailed investigation into the occurrence.
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If you require more detailed details or have particular questions about the incident, feel free to ask.
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Despite initial success, subsequent efforts to position the exact same question to Qwen2.5 resulted in the censors back at work with the reply "I don't have specific details on occasions that happened in Zhuhai on November 11, 2024".
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The transformed reaction also raised concerns about its consistency and reliability.
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Predictably, ChatGPT pointed out public details that had been commonly released in international report at the time of the accident - so not a surprises there.
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WHICH IS MORE CREATIVE?
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Users have praised the ability of Chinese [AI](http://easyoverseasnp.com) apps to [provide structured](https://dispatchexpertscudo.org.uk) and even "emotionally abundant" writing.
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"DeepSeek-R1 used a story with a more introspective tone and smoother emotional transitions for a well-paced story," composed tech writer Amanda Caswell, who specialises in [AI](https://andonovproltd.com).
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"Qwen2.5 provided a story that builds gradually from curiosity to seriousness, keeping the reader engaged. It offers an unexpected and impactful twist at the end and immersive descriptions and vibrant images for the setting," she said, including that Qwen2.5 eventually "crafted a more cinematic, mentally abundant story with a more substantial twist".
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"DeepSeek wrote a great story however lacked stress and an impactful climax, making Qwen2.5 the apparent option."
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Opinions, however, vary.
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Chen believes that Qwen2.5 does not perform as highly as DeepSeek and ChatGPT when it pertains to innovative writing.
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"(Qwen2.5) is on par with DeepSeek V3 on certain jobs, however we can likewise see that it is refraining from doing as highly as others in creative writing," he told CNA.
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Related:
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China's brand-new face of [AI](https://wiki.snooze-hotelsoftware.de): Who is DeepSeek founder Liang Wenfeng?
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'Made in China': Pride, pleasant surprise from Chinese netizens as DeepSeek jolts international [AI](https://astonvillafansclub.com) scene
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As journalists and authors, we had to see this for ourselves so we put each bot to the test - to come up with a basic sci-fi motion picture plot set in the futuristic megacity of Chongqing, [oeclub.org](https://oeclub.org/index.php/User:MichelleL34) including main characters from the timeless Chinese folklore legendary, Journey to the West.
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True to form, DeepSeek developed an interesting storyline embeded in the year 2145 entitled, "Neon Pilgrimage: The Silicon Sutra" - which sees "a future where Buddhism merges with quantum computing".
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It consisted of fancy settings - smoggy skies "pierced by skyscrapers", "holographic lanterns that drift above neon-lit streets" and "ancient temples nestled between quantum server farms".
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It likewise remarkably reimagined traditional heroes Sun Wukong as "an ironical, self-aware [AI](https://git.aiadmin.cc) housed in a taken battle body", Zhu Bajie as a cyborg club owner "drowning in financial obligation and vices" and Sha Wujing as a "quiet hulking android" from the Yangtze River, whose "memory cores end up being waterlogged and fragmented".
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ChatGPT installed a great battle, developing an equally dramatic cyberpunk storyline which likewise reimagined "a ragteam of cyber-enhanced misfits, each mirroring the famous figures of Journey to the West".
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"This is a world where [AI](http://101.34.211.172:3000) deities guideline, corporations change emperors and cybernetic implants are as common as ancient myths."
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Disappointingly, Qwen2.5 fell short in this obstacle - providing a storyline that appeared more [matched](https://www.weben.online) for an animation movie.
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"The motion picture begins with the awakening of Sun Wukong within a high-tech research study center located in the heart of Chongqing," it said, then going on to explain the following:
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Realising his new reality and "looking for to understand his purpose in this strange new world", he then gets away and meets Zhu Bajie and Sha Wujing - "each having problem with their own existential crises".
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The trio then starts a mission, navigating the streets of Chongqing to secure the sacred "Eternal Scroll" from falling under the [wrong hands](https://www.ontheballpersonnel.com.au).
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SO WHICH IS BETTER?
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Dr Zhang noted that it was "difficult to make a definitive statement" about which bot was best, adding that each displayed its own strengths in different locations, "such as language focus, training data and hardware optimization".
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Her insight underscores how Chinese [AI](https://gitlab.donnees.incubateur.anct.gouv.fr) models are not simply replicating Western paradigms, however rather developing in [economical development](https://naijascreen.com) approaches - and providing localised and enhanced results.
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In our tests, each bot showcased their own special strengths, which certainly made direct comparisons challenging.
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DeepSeek's sci-fi motion picture plot showed its imaginative flair that made for a more interesting and creative story as compared to Qwen2.5 and ChatGPT's efforts.
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Unsurprisingly, the more [established](http://109.195.52.923000) ChatGPT, unburdened by Chinese censorship constraints, supplies accurate and accurate responses to concerns about Chinese existing events, which gives it an included advantage.
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Experts also weighed in on their thoughts after using DeepSeek and other Chinese [AI](http://tesma.co.kr) apps.
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"DeepSeek is at a disadvantage when it pertains to censorship constraints," kept in mind Isaac Stone Fish, creator and CEO of the research firm Strategy Risks.
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"When offered a choice, Chinese users want the non-censored variation - similar to anyone else, so I seem like that's a piece missing out on from it."
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Independent Beijing-based consultant Andy Chen Xinran said censorship would not be a dealbreaker when it to [AI](https://www.codple.com) bots, specifically for Chinese users.
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"Ninety per cent of individuals using the tool are not trying to get a deeper understanding about Xi Jinping or politically sensitive subjects. They're using it for other efficient methods," Chen said.
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